Basics of Researching Your Loyalist Ancestors – Interview with Lianne Krüger


Now many people know about American
Revolution ancestors in the United States but did you know that you could
have a loyalist ancestor howdy I’m Devon Noel Lee with family history
fanatics and we’re here with Lianne Krüger who’s going to talk about the
possibilities of you having a loyalist ancestor and then if you find one we
might share where you what you do with that information
afterwards sound okay sounds great all right so begin what do we do how do we
discover that we have a loyalist ancestor okay first of all it’s good to
have a little bit of background what is a loyalist I came up with the phrase
just recently that they loyalists were the first American draft dodgers that
came to Canada now it depends on which side of the war you’re honest whether
they’re heroes or the enemy okay but they were avoiding George Washington
they did not want to fight against Britain and so they escaped and left and
came up to Canada some of them stayed there some of them came back to America so speak later and some went to New Zealand or Australia depending they
wanted someplace warmer I think they decided gathered it was a little cold
well depends on where you go in Canada and where you started oh yes
originally good point I saw they also then so they went to Canada mostly to
what you would know where people refer to as Quebec it was the only call Quebec
1759 it’s a great war is the reason why most of Canada speaks English instead of
French because Britain beat France in the New France area comfortin good
bridge should I say no not to me I’m yes you can
I the battle in 1759 was fought on my ancestors land called the plains of
Abraham I am french-canadian I am back to the first white landowner of Canada I
did that genealogy about 30 years ago I’m touching I so I fought on the other
side but a lot of the Americans then came up to Quebec Nova Scotia in fact
there was so many too big things happen one is a little town in Nova Scotia
became the fourth largest city in North America after the loyalists today wait a
minute wait a minute wait a minute the Americans got it wrong they weren’t a
big unit fourth largest in North America very cool
it was in the seventeen hundreds late 1700s uh no that I don’t know my
Canadian history that’s okay this little town in is now has seventeen hundred and
forty five people in it so there’s no I didn’t stay big so what’s the name of
that little town Shelburne Nova Scotia yeah I haven’t heard of that well not a
lot of people have we just put it on the map there you go Florence NZ now and the
other thing when you’re doing your research and you find out that your
family came up or somebody came up to go back it wasn’t what the province of
Quebec is today it’s only half of it Rupert’s land was above and actually
because of this immigrant of loyalist Canada was split a Quebec was split in
two so it was called the province of Quebec wasn’t Canada yeah I split into
Upper and Lower Canada can I stop you there Upper and Lower Canada confuses
the heck out of me yeah it makes no sense exactly because why is she saying
that because it confuses lots of people is Upper Canada is the south the north
is Lower Canada which is today’s Quebec Upper Canada is today’s Ontario which is
self the reason the reason is it’s by River and the Nile does the same thing
is the st. Lawrence River it’s whether you’re upriver or downriver
and upriver means you’re farther along the river then downriver which means
you’re closer to in this case the Atlantic Ocean so you’re telling me it’s
all about geography and you can do genealogy without geography there you go
darn it I failed that course and but you know and you would think North is upper
south lower and no River think River so that lame it on the river we could blame
it on the rain but no there’s not the rain if the river is the river it’s a
big river so that will help you because if it’s your ancestor says they’re in
lower Canadore Upper Canada you have to know which place to look ah okay so now
if you think you have where do you go let where are the records and
information they’re in the Library and Archives of Canada website is a great
website google it it’s www.bac-lac.gc.ca a we’re gonna put that link in the
description cuz at yes and the BAC you’re going with that that’s the French
version it comes first and then the La si is the Library Archives of Canada and
then GC for golf and okay that is I love Canada we visited Canada I know this is
a sideshow that we visited Canada and everything had to be in English in
France because they’re equivalent it’s a big thing about equivalent so that’s so
funny that it’s also in the website address all I guess on all government
websites and when you get to the website that Alaska if you want the English or
the French show if you speak French try it out
there are multiple links on there for you to start saying what you want to
search for a name there’s also the book of Negroes on there because there’s a
lot of them that also came up to Canada the only records we don’t have is German
officers who fought with Britain who came to Canada they’re not on there I
don’t know why they’ve got excluded but they got excluded but they did run far
far away they did yeah and the reason that everybody came to Canada was
draft-dodging beacon they came to the closest British place which was Canada
at the time another good place is find out around your area if there is a
loyalist group join the group they have great parties I saw some of them online
this will become part of that I would check Wikipedia out to get some in the
history as well but start with the libraries and archives they have all
there oh they also have a set of like six databases to check out and then they
have another set of links for you to go to there other websites that explain the
loyalists okay so that’s where we look what are we looking for what would be I
know United Empire Loyalists has kind of standards but what for us just casually
you know as Texans you don’t have a UEL party nearby what are we looking for
to go oh cool great whoever was part of a loyalist
um type in names and then oh they get it Canada Britain sorry not Canada Britain
also gave them land tracts so then you would know where they lived and what
land they were given okay okay and the time period we’re looking for loyalists
would be shortly after or right around the time of the American Revolution
right and up into the 1790s as well and then it’s also good to watch to see if
they stayed or did they go someplace out so they go back to United States or
another British colony so if they disappeared if if your ancestor if your
American ancestors disappeared for a while and then they came back check
loyalists check to see if they’re up there okay I like that
they’d were loyalists doesn’t necessarily meant that mean excuse me
that they fought on the British side of that revolution I mean it could be right
but this could be anything yeah the the key is that they moved up
there yeah i understanding that correctly good point yeah and it wasn’t
just the guys that are drafting dodge it was the whole family would move up there
so they did not have to fight against the British officers who they felt loyal
to so they came up and escaped the war basically, they didn’t fight against
anybody and then the loyalists would they also be folks who you know left
because they were Americans were winning and the British were losing would they
also be considered because they fled you know yeah I don’t want to stay here or
there now kind of more refugees but yeah they skate keys if that’s still boiling
yes good point yes definitely and there was the look
like there was three main waves so yes and one of them was near the end of the
war so yeah we don’t want to stay here with the Americans we want to be part of
Britain but we don’t want to go back to England okay so that’s waves three you
said there’s three ways the first yeah and basically when 1776 just around that
time and then sometime in the early 80s and then near the end of the 80s 90s
perfect look at all the things that we learned about Canadian history they
still don’t have to not get me saying eight oh yeah we can say eh but if you
listen to too many Canadians you’re gonna say about mm-hmm it just comes it
does about is our sorry about and sorry I haven’t heard sorry now I’m gonna play
this video and I’m gonna be famous or II yeah right yes can you hear it I’ve
lived in the States twelve years of my life so I I don’t
have too much of a Canadian accent yeah it’s kind of muffled it is
well Leon tell others where they can reach you after this video why I’m at I
family history dot blog spot.com know absorb a cause I’m Canadian or I family
history 59 at gmail.com and you can also find the social media handles because I
met her on Twitter that’s right I’m at Lee Anne Krueger fantastic if you have
any questions make sure you put them in the comment section below and we’ll make
sure that Lianne checks in from now and then again to answer your question but
if you want to find out all the links especially that crazy be a be a one that
I’m already confused about but put them in the description so you don’t have to
remember it I do have a one-page document a PDF document with all those
links on there for you so we’ll put that link in the description yes bonus thank
you thank you so much thank you very much excited to be on here

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