Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? (Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew) August 14, 2019 Tags:Abraham, AiG, aliens, ancient, and, Answers in Genesis, apologetics, Ark Encounter, Arphaxad, Asher Meza, astronauts, Babel, Back to the Future, Bible, Christianity, Creation, creationism, creationists, Egypt, flood, Frank Turek, Giza, God, greek, hebrew, high, history, Hoffman, Hovind, Israel, Jesus, jews, Judaism, Kent, Masoretic, melchizedek, Mizraim, museum, Nathan, Noah, of, priest, Pyramids, Rabbis, Religion, Scientists, scriptures, septuagint, Serug, shem, Sons, that, the, Timeline, Tower Related Posts Gov’t seeks to relax regulations on DNA testing starting in 2017 What is DNA and How Does it Work? Teach and Capture Family History with Video using TechSmith Products with Lisa Louise Cooke About The Author John Henderson 100 Comments Baruch Hashem This started quite informative but quickly descended into an all out rant. July 31, 2019 Reply Ray Nielsen I think it is very important to understand that any translation of the bible during 2350 bc doesn't mean that any events occurred at that moment. Nothing in the bible gives exact dates more importantly. . . What the hell does it matter. Quit sucking up semantics as if that what the bible is about. Jesus healed the lepers hand because he knew dumbasses would get hung up on semantics. Ye of little faith. August 1, 2019 Reply shyquil Durham Naw….& double naw. no one can keep all them RECORDS, but the most important one's are no where to be found. All this confusion was Authored. Who is right? Vs. who is wrong? All over a Name. Smh…I give up on Society. Take away from anything, it is depleted of its ORIGINALITY. I cannot sit here and really say Egyptians was that Dumb. I just can't do it. How can century after century can you be living on the wrong calendar date? Wait someone took their interpretation and placed their's on top. Hmmmm sounds so familiar. Basically the theme of the Video. A-ha-Yah. August 2, 2019 Reply JJ Vandal Humm jews distorting facts. Its just a coincidence August 2, 2019 Reply Lincoln Velasquez Jesus is Melchizedek. Melchizedek literally means king of righteousness. And he is king of Salem ! Which means peace . He brought bread and wine . Doesn’t that sound familiar? He has no beginning or no end ! Also Jesus said a “Abraham saw my day and was glad “ . August 2, 2019 Reply Richard Fox About the same time as Stone Henge then! August 2, 2019 Reply Richard Fox We do ALL know the flood is a myth, don't we? August 2, 2019 Reply Ben Yu Very good job, Nathan, and thanks for introducing all the versions of the bibles. As R W did, I also checked the Samaritan Pentateuch, Josephus, and Greek Septuagint and they all have the extra 100 years as you mentioned. However, I also did a comparison of the timelines from Adam to Noah and Noah to Abraham, and what I find is that all four sources have slightly different timelines, and I think Josephus made a mathematical mistake when he added Terah's birth year after the flood (Someone please verify). I don't mean to discredit any of your findings, instead, I think all us like-minded people should focus on what brings us together, not what separates us. I bet the Atheists and any other faith-based people are laughing their head off knowing that Christians are fighting against Christians. Not to say that argument is a bad thing, but I always like to have something unifying at the end. Together we are stronger. In Chinese, there is an idiom 坐山观虎斗 which is a conning military strategy in which you wait and watch two tigers fighting each other until one kills the other and then you go finish off the surviving one. Even though Kent Hovind used the Masoretic timeline, but this doesn't mean he is wrong with all of the other good works he has done. I like how you challenge the already established thought. I pray that more people come forth with their new discoveries and help grow the collective wisdom. When a school of thought becomes well-established, pride creeps in and it literally takes generations to overturn an old belief and adept into a new paradigm. Speaking of argument, is there evidence that there are sedimentary layers underneath the pyramid? Any research articles? I haven't found any. Anyways, good work. August 3, 2019 Reply Branden Adair You seem very intelligent and is clear that you have done a lot of research. My question is, does this indicate that the kjv is corrupt, which is considered by many to be the only true text. August 3, 2019 Reply Ouya Obunga The premise of your argument is hinged on two aspects; creation according to the bible and Egyptologists which approximately gives the age of the earth as c. 6,000 years. Recent cuneiforms of the Sumerians, however, show that their civilization dates way back, with timelines ranging from c. 7,000 years to as far back as c. 250,000 years where they document the start of homo sapiens existence. And that is just one of the cultures, not to mention the Mayans. I, therefore, think that confining the timelines of the earth to the bible is, and to a large extent, misguided. My take is there existed people and earth prior to 6,000 years ago. August 3, 2019 Reply Living for Jesus Actually the pyramids do have water damage its very distinct. Look for yourself August 3, 2019 Reply midnightblack How to flood the world when there aint enough water August 4, 2019 Reply Jerry Shunk There is evidence that the pyramids had casing of limestone which the flood may have removed. I think they were supernaturally built before the flood. The period between 4026 BCE & 2350 BCE, compresses 1600 or so years of mankind's existence into a few verses regarding God's purpose for bringing the flood. Genesis 6:1>>>6:7. Notice from the time men began multiplying on the earth until the advent of the fallen angels was all encapsulated in these verses, that is a lot of time for either the wicked angels or their offspring to be goofing around, "as Wally & Beaver," might describe it!🤔 August 4, 2019 Reply Ro Ems This is entertaining, but in no way is this reality. You smuggle in science and don’t mention that EVERY SINGLE scientific field show your timeline to be factually incorrect. You are changing evidence and claiming it shows one thing when it doesn’t. This is NOT science and “creation scientists” get paid a lot of money, to do bogus research that is flat out proven wrong, and to prey on gullible Christians who will believe and buy anything that fits their preconceived notions. Exactly like you demonstrated at the beginning when you showed how many people buy this kind of garbage. August 4, 2019 Reply Colin Tyler Off the top of my head. Why would anyone who had read the Old Testament take the Samaritan Pentateuch over the Hebrew Bible when the Samaritans were a mixture of Jews and heathen neighbours? Remember the LORD's words to the SAMARITAN woman at the well. "Salvation is of the Jews." The story about the creation of the LXX is almost as unbelievable as your invented story about Shem's broken heart. The 12 tribes were not the custodians of the Jewish scriptures, the Levites were. If there were six from each tribe as the story goes, there should have been 72 not 70. Furthermore, Dr. Peter Ruckman has argued forcibly for an AD date for the LXX and no less an authority than Jack Moorman quotes Ruckman on the matter. I am quite sure, though I have neither time nor taste to examine it in detail, that your fundamental thesis here is an error. August 4, 2019 Reply Danny Armstrong Yeah You Would Need To Adjust The Timeline….EXCEPT it's The Bibles Account That need The Adjustment.Because Noah's Flood Is Actually A Sumerian Account Of Zissudra King Of Shurapak .Roughly 6900 Years Prior To The Hebrews Retelling It.Refer To The Atrahasis And Epic Of Gilgamesh. August 4, 2019 Reply Frances Hen The devil has interfered but they can all be clarified August 4, 2019 Reply Jimmy Stewart Your dates are off by 9000 years the flood was approximately 12000 years ago fact scientific fact bang your whole theory gone should have got your facts right researching these things will get us to the truth of our history not wild religious speculation especially Hebrew all the answers lie in the Vatican archives August 5, 2019 Reply Getloose360 The so called European Jews are not the Israeliites and they KNOW it. August 5, 2019 Reply Jason Rockwell The entire outer shell of the pyramids has been removed all of the casing stones are gone so how would you be able to judge whether or not they had water damage? August 5, 2019 Reply Calvary Chapel Northtowns - The Garden Ever think of merging this video with the one on the date of the Exodus and condensing them down? August 5, 2019 Reply MrRepsie Bullshit! This is the biggest bullshit i've ever seen on youtube!!! August 5, 2019 Reply Uncle Scavie Dude there is proof of water corrosion and this sounds like a religiously driven by us video. You just keep bashing people with a different belief then you and not really speaking facts. August 5, 2019 Reply Mickleblade Epic lol, you guys believe an absolute load of bollocks! V entertaining August 5, 2019 Reply Earl Lee Lethbridge Just because Mizraim lived there,does not prove they built them. Antediluvian people could of built them, Especially since you can find 1800's pictures showing a lot of renovation going on. August 5, 2019 Reply Chris Caahbaugh Here read this💯 now be a good person and give us 10%😂😂😂(or go to hell) we just gonna copy and lightly fudge some Sumerian texts… To absorb your religion and get your 10%💯®😂😎 August 6, 2019 Reply Jim Belle Hmmmm. We're did this timeline for the flood come from 2300 b.c. . I am 48 yrs old and as far as I can remember the flood took place sometime from 3300 bc. – 3500 b.c. this I have always known. 2300b.c. is a new one on me. August 6, 2019 Reply jocko Ferguson This is so desperately hilarious! That evidence, which you arent mentioning, is not only not compelling, but a desperate attempt to ignore all the evidence that the pyramids were there before the last ice age! "It makes more sense to adjust Egyptian history, rather than biblical" your evidence is how old made up people's kids wouldve been? That's not evidence bra… hilarious August 6, 2019 Reply Tim Sindt The pyramids are 20,000 yrs old. Use science, not king james’ “version” which omitted several books which were not politically correct. Take this one down August 6, 2019 Reply Rick Knight Very cool research.Thanks August 6, 2019 Reply fxsrider I thought you had to divide the number of stones in the largest pyramid by 3.14 then add the coefficient of the right paw radius. That gives us the birthrate. They simply spray painted with Krylon Matte Fossil Enhancer to fool everyone. August 6, 2019 Reply Robin Hosey Need to look up information on the Younger-Dryas event and the different devastating events that caused including a flood August 7, 2019 Reply Who Cares Shem wasn't 500 years old August 7, 2019 Reply Brisiam Raygoza There is water dameg buddy look into it August 8, 2019 Reply Constante Sanchez By Faith, Adam and Eve, the Floods are true. Science is not true. Earth is flat, dinosaur bones are fakes, stars, the sun revolves around earth. The problem is-we will not viewing You tube without science August 8, 2019 Reply ShoNuffSoulBro1 At 18:33: Currently: This would push back human creation to 6,695 years ago, not 6,045 years ago as many religions such as 7th Day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses and others believe. This would demonstrate the complete error and failures of their prophesies based on bible chronology and pyramidology in the case of JWs. There are still however big questions regarding the logistics and lack of evidence concerning Noah's flood. August 8, 2019 Reply pentirah5 You are basing your opening statements, your basic premise, on the assumption that the Egyptians built the pyramids. When the Greek historian asked a priest "who built these?", the priest answered "We don't know.." At every generation of archaeological research something new is discovered that throws doubt on to previously accepted theories and interpretations. There is mounting evidence that even biblical chronology is rather shaky and has been proved to be untrustworthy. This doesn't disprove the bible, or presently accepted archaeological theories, but it suggests you should avoid making categorical statements assuming these presently accepted facts are set in stone – for all eternity!. Hanging on to cherished and time-honored opinions – and trying to prove them correct – is not the path to truth. August 8, 2019 Reply Dawn Emile Thank you for this very valuable information. I was a JW for 45 years and just fully woke up. I was persuaded by my indoctrination that I knew the Bible because I had read it over many times. When I found out thag I had been hoodwinked, I decided to read each verse in the Bible closely and make notes starting from Genesis 1. Before I warched your video I had noticed the problem with Cainan/Kenan but though he had been omitted not added. I had also thought that the patriarch who had sons in their 30s was highly unusual. This video then answered two areas of inquiry that I had. Overall, the information supplied by the video you attached was like a thunderbolt. As distressing as finding out about the duplicity of JW.org. To find out that the KJV and the New World Translation had not provided correct information is devastating. However, I will keep digging for the truth. I can't thank you enough for your share in providing it to me. (All the trolls who left negative messages, let this be a warning. Foolishness will result in an adverse judgement from the Lord). August 8, 2019 Reply Dawn Emile NB Pls correct the typo re patriarch, it should read patriarchs. August 8, 2019 Reply son of perdition blessed are the meek. August 8, 2019 Reply Bobby Ploss Awesome video !!! Very well put together !!! August 9, 2019 Reply MoodyDrifter62 BRAVO!!! August 9, 2019 Reply Tânia Lopez Voy a tener que ver este video 50 veces para entender tanto enredo. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 August 9, 2019 Reply Ethelred Hardrede "ere the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? " Of course not as there never was such a flood. The physical evidence is abundantly clear on that. Jericho is over 8000 years old it to was never under water. Oh and the entire Middle East timeline is linked to the Egyptian timeline. ANY attempt to change it also changes the Biblical timeline. And the dating for the pyramids is correct. Writing started around 3000 BC. The Flood never occurred, geology and biology and archaeology all disprove that. Even with a shifted timeline. Now that shifted timeline does make more sense but there simply never was such a flood. Ethelred Hardrede August 9, 2019 Reply Paint My home This is all conjecture. Our timings are out. The flood happened August 9, 2019 Reply Paint My home Great video August 9, 2019 Reply Paint My home This is the best video for explaining our mistakes. Fantastic August 9, 2019 Reply Luis Chavez First of all awesome Job I can see the countless hours you spent working on this project. I really appreciate your effort. I myself have a channel and I kind of relate with the effort it takes to develop even simple material for a 19 minute video. Once again thanks a lot. I was wondering what add on or program you use to make this type of text highlighting effects like in this time of the video 26:59 that would help me to at least look more professional like you do. August 9, 2019 Reply Need2Know Anonymous The 2 witness rule, I love it. JWs shouldn’t argue with that 😉 August 9, 2019 Reply James Logan The biblical account is stolen from the Sumerian histories. The flood occurs some 12500 ago. August 9, 2019 Reply Eric Isawesome If the entire planet was flooded at once how are there freshwater fish? Evolution? What about geographically isolated species? Kangaroos only in Australia? Lemurs? Isn't it more plausible that the flood being Global is hyperbole or mis-translated? The age of the pyramids is not the problem with the flood scriptures, it is the claim of it being global… August 9, 2019 Reply D S Hey! Maybe the answer is to stop trying to force reality and historical/scientific facts to conform to a bronze age fantasy novel. There was NO flood.. the Biblical flood myth was copied from the earlier Sumerian flood story. Just as the creation myth, garden of Eden, and even the Biblical god himself were. August 10, 2019 Reply D S Oh and BTW atheists aren't the only people who see the Bible as BS and question its veracity. The world isn't atheists vs The Bible lol August 10, 2019 Reply Jorge Reyna See Mario buildreps videosThere are thounsand pyramids all around the world August 10, 2019 Reply breeze787 There isn't anything in the Ancient Asian texts that indicate that there was a flood of the biblical magnitude. The S. Koreans have Korean artifacts in their historical museums, tools, artifacts & pottery that dates back over 30,000 years. The Christians say that the world is only 6,000 years old and the S. Korean artifacts say they've got proof humans have been on earth at least for the last 30,000 years. The Chinese ancient script are completely independent of Biblical history and Biblical history ignores that there was any other civilizations outside of the Greeks, Roman and Jews. The bible is not an accurate historical reference because there are huge conflicts with Asian mainly Chinese, S. Korean and Japanese written records. Who in the Western world has tried to cross reference the timeline of Asian texts & articles with those of the story of god? No one! Did god only care about Europeans and Arabic peoples? Yes the biblical god was ignorant of any other cultures around the world. And naturally at that time the world was flat. How arrogant & narcissistic of the bible to assume that the world is according to ancient text and ignores Aborigines, American Indians, Polynesians, Phillipinos, Japanese, Koreans, Malasians, Indians from India, Africans, Chinese, Thai's, Vietnamese, Singaporeans etc. If god is a god then getting his word to the other cultures should have been easy peasy yet there is no evidence in Asian ancient texts to indicate they knew anything of this Western god. The bibles ignorance of all the other cultures says the bible is plain ole FICTION! August 10, 2019 Reply Bryan Nicholson The great pyramid is the shell of machine that was able to teleport you through space. It's designer tells us this all the other pyramids that were build are called burial chambers. Place where you put the dead to go to the after life. look at the completed forest not just one of the trees. August 10, 2019 Reply Bryan Nicholson Yes it was build before the flood. Fallen angels are not stupid they know how everything works. August 10, 2019 Reply Bandaloop This is filled with so much BS lmao August 10, 2019 Reply Ge Juarez I need to perform some Berean due-diligence but overall this is an excellent video. Well done Nathan. August 10, 2019 Reply Bad At Pseudoscience At 2:22 he states that Mizram means Egypt so Egypt had to come after Mizram but the name Mizram could have come from Egypt. That is if he even existed. Besides you are using Biblical history to make that claim to begin with. Next you talk about the great pyramids being on top of rock that contains fossils but what about the fossils in the rock that makes up the great pyramids. You then say that it make s more since to question Egyptian history the the bible. Even if your facts where sound (which that are obviously not) you have mad no case for taking biblical history over Egyptian history. August 10, 2019 Reply outofthebox7 I think Melchizedek having no beginning of days and end of life, means here on earth, that he was not born here or had died here. Like he was simply brought on this earth and then left. Not that he is eternal. Only God is eternal. August 10, 2019 Reply outofthebox7 Those naughty Jews… And this shows up: https://youtu.be/oC5qf5I3sSI August 10, 2019 Reply Jay Savage Pyramids are older than 10000 yrs….this video in pointless August 10, 2019 Reply Joshua Barbosa NathanH83, praise be to God for the work you have done here, I admire the synthesis of what I imagine to be a good amount of time of studying, along with working out all the complexities, and synthesizing it into a presentation that communicates these things smoothly and comprehensively. Cool beanz man, cool beans! August 11, 2019 Reply jesus deochoa Great video August 11, 2019 Reply Robert Pattinson This young man has been blessed by God to give us all the truth! Satan has been working day and night since the beginning of mankind to corrupt the Bible August 11, 2019 Reply michael martin The Masorotic Hebrew IS the original Hebrew… All that changed was vowel points to show how the words were pronounced.If you actually have a copy of the Septuagint then you have a priceless treasure, since the original was destroyed (i believe at the burning of the library in Alexandria. Btw, only the first five books were translated by the Rabbis… No one is sure who translated the rest, with Isaiah the least accurate…Please do your due diligence when referring to these two resources. Ty. August 11, 2019 Reply michael martin Isn't this where God set the limit to 120 years? August 11, 2019 Reply michael martin The Rabbis held nothing back. You need to study the oral Torah. When God said to slaughter animals in the way He said to. Where does the Bible say how? Or how to honor your parents? What work is allowed on the Sabbath? After all it says "melecha" , not "avodah". Avodah is work in general. Not so so with melecha……….Details, details…………………….. August 11, 2019 Reply michael martin The library of Alexandria actually burnt in 48 bce. August 11, 2019 Reply gamer7916 Creation Scientist ? That’s funny August 11, 2019 Reply Salsita del recuerdo i dont believe you and your explanation because you are not considering human nature… who man falling in love in 100 years old?, who man make love in 100 years old? nobody!!!Natural is men get a woman in 20s or 30s… you are incorrect! (sorry by my english) August 11, 2019 Reply Richard Hopkins Well seeing as the biblical flood never happened, then yes, yes they were built before the flood August 11, 2019 Reply Sam Preeth This is y bible can never be lost or never be corrupted. God has planned just like block chain.. to verify to get corrected August 11, 2019 Reply Jay Gill Let's accommodate real scientific history to please a fantasy fairytale book and sell it at wally world totally makes sense now! August 11, 2019 Reply Richard Hopkins But it had every person living an extra hundred years, so if you just take 100 off of each person's life like you said. Each person wasn't 35 or 40 or 45, they were 135, 140, and 145. Then you take 100 from each person on the shem time-line and guess what, shem still outlived everybody. Besides, in what world is 500 minus 100, anything less than 400? August 11, 2019 Reply Richard Hopkins How do you explain 8 people repopulating the earth with THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people that it took just to build the pyramids. Just to build Kufus pyramid alone, it took nearly 10 thousand workers. And there is no way physically possible that 8 people turned into anywhere even close to just the 10 thousand it took to build the one pyramid. Yes I know, the pyramids were built over 20 years. Even with that extra 20 years, which is not quite one full generation. There is no way. It cannot happen, IMPOSSIBLE. The 4th generation off the ark would have been so inbred that they couldn't reproduce and the human species would have ended long before the time of the pyramids. So regardless of what the time line says. It couldn't have happened that way. COULD NOT, IMPOSSIBLE . August 11, 2019 Reply Marco OnlineTV So, how on earth you are the only one with these theory ? If your arguments are valid, why most Bible Scholars does not support you ? August 11, 2019 Reply wingedscourge Nathan, you say that the Greek Septuagint's version of Isaiah 61 verse 1 has the words änd recovery of sight to the blind" but the Hebrew Masoretic text doesn't have them. Since the Septuagint is older and lines up with Luke it must be the accurate translation, right? Well, the Isaiah scroll from the Dead Sea scrolls predates Luke and any existing Septuagint and the words änd recovery of sight to the blind" are not there. You can go to Israel and read it for yourself.Do you have an explanation for this? August 11, 2019 Reply Richard Hopkins No, most atheists say……. Oh you're going to use the tower of Babel as evidence for something.. You must first prove that the tower of Babel existed. Otherwise it can't be used as evidence of anything. August 11, 2019 Reply Richard Hopkins 3.2 % growth rate is unrealistic, the world population growth rate right now is 1.07% August 11, 2019 Reply Night Hiker You have to choose a group of people to work outside to build pyramids. What group of people would you choose to get this monster test done and done right. What group of people would you pick, August 11, 2019 Reply Night Hiker What color of people would you choose if you had to build pyramids outside in desert kind of weather. Time to choose. August 11, 2019 Reply Night Hiker Everyone love and respected as his words were true. Building pyramids kept his people feed and alive, but what was Egypt motivation group reason drive. August 11, 2019 Reply Night Hiker Joseph had the power to motivate the Israelites in Egypt to build the pyramids. August 11, 2019 Reply Night Hiker The common man can relate to Joseph. Look how many bible chapters and events happen took place after Josrph actions. August 11, 2019 Reply balsamic vinegar What Bible would you say is closest to the original writings? August 12, 2019 Reply Doug Randall Good job. August 12, 2019 Reply Bourbon Bilis Nathan, this was well done. It makes a lot of sense. Excellent work!Could you do a video on the time differential apparent in The New Testament and Josephus? August 12, 2019 Reply Annyai Presoski Well argued. August 12, 2019 Reply William Westbrook What's the growth rate if people wait until they're 130 years old to have children? August 12, 2019 Reply Elmer Snagnasty Creationism versus Egyptology is still two forms of mythology versus itself. The premise that the pyramids don’t show water damage, that two is not entirely accurate. You would have to know that the sides of the pyramids were covered with polished stone, which is now gone. So where’d that stone go? Did it dissolve? It was totally smooth. I’m not sure that one can argue the pyramids haven’t eroded, it’s self evidence that they’ve experienced some serious changes. They are decayed significantly. August 12, 2019 Reply Governing Dad Body Atheists don't believe in any of the old Testament bullshit, yet alone the "Tower of Babel." August 12, 2019 Reply Night Hiker 70ad . Jerusalem was completely over run by Rome. So what people took their identity. The Last Supper, was painted by Rome's authority first, 350 years later. Who were the look alikes. August 12, 2019 Reply John Rutledge I think it's time to tell the religious people that they are retarded and successful only because they are in a big gang of sorts , Sort of a collective stupidity. It sucks that they exist. It really ruins the progress that could be made by humanity, having the retarded people not realise that they are so. August 12, 2019 Reply John Rutledge The Bible doesn't even mention the pyramids so they don't matter. and the world is flat . August 12, 2019 Reply John Rutledge I think if all the religious people were put to work every Sunday growing food instead of dressing up and being nerds , maybe the world wouldn't suck. August 12, 2019 Reply Joseph Falco The flood happened in 3500 BC. August 13, 2019 Reply Dumisani Dliwayo i am completely amazed great video ….now i have to go and do my home work and verify that these things are true of not. i really enjoyed your work thank you Sir. August 13, 2019 Reply Kalle Lundahl Impressive research! August 13, 2019 Reply Add a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.